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	<description>A news resource for CyberLaw and Cyber-Rights issues from around the globe</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on CoE HR Commissioner - Strong data protection rules are needed by Aaron Wakling</title>
		<link>http://cyberlaw.org.uk/2008/05/28/coe-hr-commissioner-strong-data-protection-rules-are-needed/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Wakling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 21:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Blog. I will continue reading it in the future.  Nice layout too.

Aaron Wakling</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Blog. I will continue reading it in the future.  Nice layout too.</p>
<p>Aaron Wakling</p>
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		<title>Comment on Google Fights for the Right to Hide Its Privacy Policy by Benjamin Wright</title>
		<link>http://cyberlaw.org.uk/2008/05/28/google-fights-for-the-right-to-hide-its-privacy-policy/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Google can assert its legal terms just by publishing them, then users can assert their own &lt;a href="http://hack-igations.blogspot.com/2008/05/google-privacy-policy-terms-of-service.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;terms of privacy protection just by publishing&lt;/a&gt; them!  What do you think?  --Ben  http://hack-igations.blogspot.com/2008/05/google-privacy-policy-terms-of-service.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Google can assert its legal terms just by publishing them, then users can assert their own <a href="http://hack-igations.blogspot.com/2008/05/google-privacy-policy-terms-of-service.html" rel="nofollow">terms of privacy protection just by publishing</a> them!  What do you think?  &#8211;Ben  <a href="http://hack-igations.blogspot.com/2008/05/google-privacy-policy-terms-of-service.html" rel="nofollow">http://hack-igations.blogspot.com/2008/05/google-privacy-policy-terms-of-service.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on UK Researcher detained for downloading Al-Qaida manual by Sophie</title>
		<link>http://cyberlaw.org.uk/2008/05/28/uk-researcher-detained-for-downloading-al-qaida-manual/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's the last interview with Hich, from his deportation centre yesterday: http://observers.france24.com/en/content/20080528-deported-al-qaeda-manual-yezza-nottingham. 
You can join a Facebook group too - it's in the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the last interview with Hich, from his deportation centre yesterday: <a href="http://observers.france24.com/en/content/20080528-deported-al-qaeda-manual-yezza-nottingham" rel="nofollow">http://observers.france24.com/en/content/20080528-deported-al-qaeda-manual-yezza-nottingham</a>.<br />
You can join a Facebook group too - it&#8217;s in the article.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BBFC Download Classification Scheme to Include the Adult Industry by admin</title>
		<link>http://cyberlaw.org.uk/2008/05/22/bbfc-download-classification-scheme-to-include-the-adult-industry/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 07:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Graham, I should have commented on the BBFC press release too as you are absolutely right and this issue has been widely covered in this blog elsewhere. BBFC classified but extracted material (e.g. clips from an R18 movie) could be subject to prosecution under the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act provisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Graham, I should have commented on the BBFC press release too as you are absolutely right and this issue has been widely covered in this blog elsewhere. BBFC classified but extracted material (e.g. clips from an R18 movie) could be subject to prosecution under the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act provisions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BBFC Download Classification Scheme to Include the Adult Industry by Graham Marsden</title>
		<link>http://cyberlaw.org.uk/2008/05/22/bbfc-download-classification-scheme-to-include-the-adult-industry/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Marsden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 01:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a small correction to one of the "Notes for Editors":

"4. The Criminal Justice and Immigration Act has created a new offence of the possession of ‘extreme violent pornography’ – BBFC classified material is specifically excluded under this definition."

This isn't completely correct, since clause 64 of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act (Exclusion of classified films etc) says:

* * * * *

(1) Section 63 [Possession of extreme pornographic images] does not apply to excluded images.

(2) An “excluded image” is an image which forms part of a series of images contained in a recording of the whole or part of a classified work.

(3) But such an image is not an “excluded image” if—
(a) it is contained in a recording of an extract from a classified work, and
(b) it is of such a nature that it must reasonably be assumed to have been extracted (whether with or without other images) solely or principally for the purpose of sexual arousal.

* * * * *

In other words, if you extract a clip of James Bond being tortured in Casino Royale (which could be said to "risk serious injury to genitals") and someone else decides that you took that clip "solely or principally for the purpose of sexual arousal" then you can be deemed to have committed an offence. 

So it is legal to watch this film in its whole, but taking an excerpt from it could be illegal!

Ironically, the BBFC have just given an R18 classification to a DVD called "Girls with Guns" which has women "forcing" men to engage in sexual activity whilst being threatened with guns.

Now whilst this is clearly "an act which threatens a person’s life" (pointing a gun at someone) and is "for sexual arousal" (obviously), because it is not "an extract from a classified work", but is the *entire* work, it cannot be considered to be illegal!

Can we have a reality check here, please...???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a small correction to one of the &#8220;Notes for Editors&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;4. The Criminal Justice and Immigration Act has created a new offence of the possession of ‘extreme violent pornography’ – BBFC classified material is specifically excluded under this definition.&#8221;</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t completely correct, since clause 64 of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act (Exclusion of classified films etc) says:</p>
<p>* * * * *</p>
<p>(1) Section 63 [Possession of extreme pornographic images] does not apply to excluded images.</p>
<p>(2) An “excluded image” is an image which forms part of a series of images contained in a recording of the whole or part of a classified work.</p>
<p>(3) But such an image is not an “excluded image” if—<br />
(a) it is contained in a recording of an extract from a classified work, and<br />
(b) it is of such a nature that it must reasonably be assumed to have been extracted (whether with or without other images) solely or principally for the purpose of sexual arousal.</p>
<p>* * * * *</p>
<p>In other words, if you extract a clip of James Bond being tortured in Casino Royale (which could be said to &#8220;risk serious injury to genitals&#8221;) and someone else decides that you took that clip &#8220;solely or principally for the purpose of sexual arousal&#8221; then you can be deemed to have committed an offence. </p>
<p>So it is legal to watch this film in its whole, but taking an excerpt from it could be illegal!</p>
<p>Ironically, the BBFC have just given an R18 classification to a DVD called &#8220;Girls with Guns&#8221; which has women &#8220;forcing&#8221; men to engage in sexual activity whilst being threatened with guns.</p>
<p>Now whilst this is clearly &#8220;an act which threatens a person’s life&#8221; (pointing a gun at someone) and is &#8220;for sexual arousal&#8221; (obviously), because it is not &#8220;an extract from a classified work&#8221;, but is the *entire* work, it cannot be considered to be illegal!</p>
<p>Can we have a reality check here, please&#8230;???</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Guardian: CCTV boom has failed to slash crime, say police by Amd</title>
		<link>http://cyberlaw.org.uk/2008/05/06/the-guardian-cctv-boom-has-failed-to-slash-crime-say-police/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>Amd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 08:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I searched for \'Amd Identity Kit\' at Google and found your post named \'rdian: CCTV boom has failed to slash crime, say police &#124; CyberLaw\' in search results. Quite interesting to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I searched for \&#8217;Amd Identity Kit\&#8217; at Google and found your post named \&#8217;rdian: CCTV boom has failed to slash crime, say police | CyberLaw\&#8217; in search results. Quite interesting to read.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Extreme Porn Provisions: Unanswered Questions by admin</title>
		<link>http://cyberlaw.org.uk/2008/05/01/extreme-porn-provisions-unanswered-questions/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 12:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could try to help but you need to be more specific!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could try to help but you need to be more specific!</p>
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		<title>Comment on BBC News: Mother&#8217;s porn law campaign ends by Entertainment Lawyer</title>
		<link>http://cyberlaw.org.uk/2008/05/08/bbc-news-mothers-porn-law-campaign-ends/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Entertainment Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 09:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was researching the same thing when I saw this.. I can not agree more - but I am still going to look for a better source</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was researching the same thing when I saw this.. I can not agree more - but I am still going to look for a better source</p>
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		<title>Comment on Extreme Pornography: Sentencing Issues by admin</title>
		<link>http://cyberlaw.org.uk/2008/05/07/extreme-pornography-sentencing-issues/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your reasoning. However, the comparison is made in terms of "sentencing issues" not in terms of the offence itself on the assumption that the Bill will receive Royal Assent tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your reasoning. However, the comparison is made in terms of &#8220;sentencing issues&#8221; not in terms of the offence itself on the assumption that the Bill will receive Royal Assent tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Extreme Pornography: Sentencing Issues by Graham Marsden</title>
		<link>http://cyberlaw.org.uk/2008/05/07/extreme-pornography-sentencing-issues/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Marsden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 12:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly can I please ask that people stop falling for Government Spin and stop making comparisons with Child Pornography.

Children cannot, by law, consent to sexual acts, but this "Dangerous Pictures Act" will affect consenting adults engaged in legal activities, the two situations are entirely different, but the Government has been trying to confuse people by conflating them from the very start with their biased "Consulatation" that made repeated, irrelevant references to child pornography.

Secondly, I'm no legal expert, but from what I understand, in the Appeals Court Ruling in the case of the five Muslim students who were arrested and charged with "extremist material" Lord Phillips said: 

"We do not consider that it was made plain to the jury, whether by the prosecution or by the Recorder, that the case that the appellants had to face was that they possessed the extremist material for use in the future to incite the commission of terrorist acts.

"We doubt whether the evidence supported such a case." 

Now if possession of "extremist" material is not sufficient to convict someone of terrorism, I do not see how the possession of so-called "extreme pornography" can be parlayed into intent to commit acts of sexual violence or murder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly can I please ask that people stop falling for Government Spin and stop making comparisons with Child Pornography.</p>
<p>Children cannot, by law, consent to sexual acts, but this &#8220;Dangerous Pictures Act&#8221; will affect consenting adults engaged in legal activities, the two situations are entirely different, but the Government has been trying to confuse people by conflating them from the very start with their biased &#8220;Consulatation&#8221; that made repeated, irrelevant references to child pornography.</p>
<p>Secondly, I&#8217;m no legal expert, but from what I understand, in the Appeals Court Ruling in the case of the five Muslim students who were arrested and charged with &#8220;extremist material&#8221; Lord Phillips said: </p>
<p>&#8220;We do not consider that it was made plain to the jury, whether by the prosecution or by the Recorder, that the case that the appellants had to face was that they possessed the extremist material for use in the future to incite the commission of terrorist acts.</p>
<p>&#8220;We doubt whether the evidence supported such a case.&#8221; </p>
<p>Now if possession of &#8220;extremist&#8221; material is not sufficient to convict someone of terrorism, I do not see how the possession of so-called &#8220;extreme pornography&#8221; can be parlayed into intent to commit acts of sexual violence or murder.</p>
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